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 Author: kozibrada  [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:15 am ] Post subject: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers Hihello,this 7×7 calcudoku contains some of numbers 0–9 (integers). And a hint: F…

 Author: sica  [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:34 pm ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers What are the possible combinations for 3|?

 Author: pnm  [ Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:14 pm ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers Yes, at first sight I'm thinking for that large 3| cage, "the horizontal bar must have 1, 2, 3,but that's not possible!" So that's a clue, really

 Author: clm  [ Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:05 am ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers pnm wrote:Yes, at first sight I'm thinking for that large 3| cage, "the horizontal bar must have 1, 2, 3,but that's not possible!" So that's a clue, really Not necessarily because you could have 0,1,3 for that horizontal, for instance, since there is a 0 in the puzzle because of cage "0x".The real inconsistency that I see is that the 0 of row 7 must necessarily go to a7-b7, that is, "5+" = [0,5] and then the 5 of column c must go to c1-c2, that is, "5-" = [0,5] and, as a consequence, "3+" = [1,2] so c3 = 3 (unique, with b2-b3 = [1,2], being [1,1,6] invalid) and I can not imagine which number to place in c4 different than 0,1,2,3 that does not violate the "bitwise or" of cage "3|" (the other numbers in the supossed range 4,6,7,8,9 are not valid).So I will wait the "clue" either.

 Author: kozibrada  [ Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:00 am ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers pnm wrote:Yes, at first sight I'm thinking for that large 3| cage, "the horizontal bar must have 1, 2, 3,but that's not possible!" So that's a clue, really clm wrote:The real inconsistency that I see is that the 0 of row 7 must necessarily go to a7-b7, that is, "5+" = [0,5] and then the 5 of column c must go to c1-c2, that is, "5-" = [0,5] and, as a consequence, "3+" = [1,2] so c3 = 3 (unique, with b2-b3 = [1,2], being [1,1,6] invalid) and I can not imagine which number to place in c4 different than 0,1,2,3 that does not violate the "bitwise or" of cage "3|" (the other numbers in the supossed range 4,6,7,8,9 are not valid).So I will wait the "clue" either.I’m not sure if Patrick found out the solution. According to the smiley, maybe yes. So another hint/clue: My first hint doesn’t mark a column…

 Author: pnm  [ Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:06 pm ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers clm wrote:Not necessarily because you could have 0,1,3 for that horizontal, for instance, since there is a 0 in the puzzle because of cage "0x".You're thinking too deeply It just tells me there must be a zero in the puzzle (so yes, I hadn't even looked at the "0x" cage )

 Author: kozibrada  [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:06 am ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers No reply, so: …

 Author: sica  [ Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:58 pm ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers This is a very good calcudoku.I found a problem in it that I can't solve.It could be a typing error.The large "3|" cage can contain 0,1,2 or 3.Because f4=2 cells [b2-d2] contain 0,1 and 3. In this case g3=0.In cage "1^" one of cells must be 0 or 1. Because g3=0 one cell must be 1.Cage "6x" can be [1,2,3] or [1,1,6]. But because "1^" contain 1 [1,1,6] is not valid.After this we have on row 3:- in columns b and c [2,3]- in columns e or f [1]- in column g [0]So we used all the numbers possible for large cage "3|".In this case we don't have any number left for cell d3.

 Author: nicow  [ Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:01 pm ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers Yes I like this kind of puzzle. I know how hard it is to make one. But I did not find a solution. With the ‘‘3|’’ of the large cage replaced by ‘‘15|’’ there might be 1 solution. But I don't stick my hands in the fire because I do make many mistakes.

 Author: kozibrada  [ Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:32 am ] Post subject: Re: Calcudoku 7×7 with undetermined numbers I’m bringing the third clue for the upper puzzle – more practical and probably deciding:(Note: 0+ integers.)How many solutions has the puzzle? Maybe I’ll be killed for this innovation…

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