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Author: | nicow [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
But see the nicer looking version of Patrick! This noop-puzzle is not 1 to 7. |
Author: | firefly [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
It's not just missing the operator on the cage, it's missing the number itself. Edit: Oh, lol, I guess those are supposed to be the cage numbers, nm. Edit: Solved. That was interesting. A somewhat different take on the -2 to 2 5x5 puzzle. Edit: Hrm, wait, one error.. |
Author: | pnm [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
Thanks nicow Here's the same puzzle after running it through my "visualizer": |
Author: | firefly [ Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
Okay, solved for real this time. Had to do the whole thing over again, the error was at the very end, of course >.< |
Author: | kozibrada [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
Thanks for this good puzzle. ► A little spoiler! ◄ After I noticed that all numbers are determined (I didn’t expect that all three “right” single cages are different from those on “left” ), and solved the puzzle, I tried to use subtraction at the negatively marked cages. Of course, I knew and know that this is “forbidden” act for us, puzzlers, but I just tried it – for fun. E.g. the right bottom “5−” cage could have three combinations: −2 + (−3) as addition; −2 − (+3) and −3 − (+2) as subtraction. Though, the puzzle would have only solution… |
Author: | nicow [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 2:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
Thank you Kozibrada! I almost began to think no-one had interest in this new kind of puzzle! And you would be right if the cage {F7,G7} is 5-. Then the puzzle indeed is incorrect. With -5 it has only one solution! |
Author: | kozibrada [ Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 7×7 Calcudocu noop |
nicow wrote: Thank you Kozibrada! I almost began to think no-one had interest in this new kind of puzzle! And you would be right if the cage {F7,G7} is 5-. Then the puzzle indeed is incorrect. With -5 it has only one solution! I’m sorry, I thought “−5” cage, of course. I noticed something else, and it could be a useful tip for potential no-op (and not only for “negative”! ) puzzles. Your one contains only 2-cell cages, so it would mean in practice (if we omit the rule about forbidden negative result at subtraction) that |−n−| = |n−|… e.g. |−2 − (+2)| = |+2 − (−2)| = 4. But it same doesn’t always apply to “more”-cell cages. I’ve chosen 3-cell L-shape in 3×3 no-op calcudoku with [−1, 0, 1]. In the sketch, except valid combinations, the last combination shows a possible result +1−, not −1−. So here |−n−| ≠ |n−|… |
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