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Author: | sneaklyfox [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:03 am ] |
Post subject: | killer sudoku duplicate numbers |
Ok, no duplicate numbers in a cage is a rule for killer sudokus. But there is an L-shaped cage in August 23rd difficult puzzle (25) that can only be satisfied by the numbers 8,9,8 or 9,7,9... |
Author: | pnm [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: killer sudoku duplicate numbers |
sneaklyfox wrote: Ok, no duplicate numbers in a cage is a rule for killer sudokus. But there is an L-shaped cage in August 23rd difficult puzzle (25) that can only be satisfied by the numbers 8,9,8 or 9,7,9... Thanks for this, I realize now that by "merging" single cell cages I opened a can of worms :-( Bottom line is that the merging happens at the wrong stage of the process, will fix.. Patrick |
Author: | pharosian [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: killer sudoku duplicate numbers |
sneaklyfox wrote: Ok, no duplicate numbers in a cage is a rule for killer sudokus. But there is an L-shaped cage in August 23rd difficult puzzle (25) that can only be satisfied by the numbers 8,9,8 or 9,7,9... I don't see why "no duplicate numbers in a cage" has to be a rule for Killer Sudoku in cases (such as the one you mention) where the cage straddles two 3x3 grids. There is thus no violation of the 1-9 unique values in any 3x3 or in any row or column... What am I missing? At the time I checked last, 48 people (including me) had solved the puzzle, so it doesn't seem to be a big deal... |
Author: | pnm [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:06 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: killer sudoku duplicate numbers |
pharosian wrote: What am I missing? At the time I checked last, 48 people (including me) had solved the puzzle, so it doesn't seem to be a big deal... It's a convention thing. At some point people settled on "no duplicates". And once you know that that is a rule, it'll help you solve it of course. On one particular forum someone even wrote "your puzzles are _not_ Killer Sudoku, use a different name" (!) (math/puzzle people can be quite particular ) |
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