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 Author: starling  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:54 am ] Post subject: 2.596 I have the strangest feeling that there's something amiss about that time. That's a keystroke every .07211 seconds, or 832 APM, which is higher than July's world record...

 Author: bram  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:22 am ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 It took a short while for me to realise that the time of 2.596 seconds you were referring to was someone's time solving not a 4x4 but a 6x6! That is of course impossible. (The same puzzler solved another 6x6 in 40.280 seconds, which is a much more realistic time.)

 Author: pnm  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:33 am ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 starling wrote:I have the strangest feeling that there's something amiss about that time. That's a keystroke every .07211 seconds, or 832 APM, which is higher than July's world record...quite...both his times (the other was 40.28) were done using a solver in fact.for the first he typed in the solution himself (row by row), for the 2nd it was a program.Patrick

 Author: pnm  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:59 am ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 A bit annoying, I sent him a note asking not to use a solver anymore,and to maybe write about it in the "describe your solver" thread,and all he does is submit another crazy time :-(

 Author: frederick  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:44 pm ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 pnm wrote:starling wrote:I have the strangest feeling that there's something amiss about that time. That's a keystroke every .07211 seconds, or 832 APM, which is higher than July's world record...quite...both his times (the other was 40.28) were done using a solver in fact.for the first he typed in the solution himself (row by row), for the 2nd it was a program.PatrickI agree, very annoying, now i will certainly never be number 1 on the 6x6 timed (i know - what a wit eh)Still, somehow, one feels solvers are in use by more than one denizen of this club.Luckily I still get a thrill when after much browbeating I see one of the hard puzzles light up green:)

 Author: pnm  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:37 pm ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 opacitaviola wrote:Still, somehow, one feels solvers are in use by more than one denizen of this club.There's quite a bit of software I wrote that's trying to make it hard/impossible for people using solvers.So I'm pretty confident that the people at the top are legit.Also, by doing the timed puzzles myself I get a good sense of what is possible (and mybest times are pretty decent )Of course, when someone uses a solver to solve the regular puzzles (& Killer Sudokus)there's not much I can do about that (i.e. it is possible to collect lots ofpoints without ever knowing how to solve the puzzles, but where's the fun in that).Patrick

 Author: frederick  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:10 pm ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 pnm wrote:Of course, when someone uses a solver to solve the regular puzzles (& Killer Sudokus)there's not much I can do about that (i.e. it is possible to collect lots ofpoints without ever knowing how to solve the puzzles, but where's the fun in that).PatrickI agree wholeheartedly - about the fun part.

 Author: Piotr  [ Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:33 pm ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 'sup?pnm wrote:both his times (the other was 40.28) were done using a solver in fact.for the first he typed in the solution himself (row by row), for the 2nd it was a program.i don't remember getting 40s at all, but if i did, it most probably wasn't by solver, because it would took me longer to type that puzzle, and the solution in. on the other hand i suck at doing them fast, so... umm... dunno.pnm wrote:A bit annoying, I sent him a note asking not to use a solver anymore,whoops, didn't see. i don't use that email.opacitaviola wrote:I agree, very annoying, now i will certainly never be number 1 on the 6x6 timed (i know - what a wit eh)if they didn't remove my result you'd just need to write more automatic solver ;Popacitaviola wrote:Still, somehow, one feels solvers are in use by more than one denizen of this club.nooooo waaaaay. i'm absolutely sure i'm the only one lazy/hard working enough to do that.pnm wrote:There's quite a bit of software I wrote that's trying to make it hard/impossible for people using solvers.oh, i wonder, how would it be possible...pnm wrote:Also, by doing the timed puzzles myself I get a good sense of what is possibledoing 4x4 in 3.9s, 5x5 in 9.7s, and 6x6 in 16.6s seems possible? srsly?pnm wrote:(i.e. it is possible to collect lots of points without ever knowing how to solve the puzzles, but where's the fun in that)agreed.

 Author: pnm  [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:42 am ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 fb_12411 wrote:i'm afraid i have no idea where did it go, and where i can read it.To the e-mail address associated with your facebook account.fb_12411 wrote:nooooo waaaaay. i'm absolutely sure i'm the only one lazy/hard working enough to do that.Quite a few people have written solvers (just check the solvers thread)(and there are more)fb_12411 wrote:doing 4x4 in 3.9s, 5x5 in 9.7s, and 6x6 in 16.6s seems possible? srsly?Yes, as I wrote, I'm pretty confident those are valid times.Anyway, feel free to describe your solver..

 Author: Piotr  [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:54 am ] Post subject: Re: 2.596 pnm wrote:To the e-mail address associated with your facebook account.yeah, sorry, i forgot my fb account is connected to my old email which i don't use, and i've found your email just before you wrote that post ;)pnm wrote:Quite a few people have written solvers (just check the solvers thread)(and there are more)oh please, fix your irony detector :Dpnm wrote:Yes, as I wrote, I'm pretty confident those are valid times.that 4x4 would require typing properly 4 fields/sec, which is pretty unbelievable, unless it looked like your avatar...

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